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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18026 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:04 pm to
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The bill for Americans to foot the bill of building Ukraine back better after the war is over will be amazing. Really.

“If you don’t a have a money, just give us a creedit!”


Russian War Reparations will do that... I hear Russia has oil and natural gas, that could be managed by some other entity to make sure they pay the reparations.


That's why NATO countries need to use the seized Russian money. We already have what we need, and the congressional bill calls for $8 billion in seized Russian assets to be used exactly that way.

If we follow through with that, it will put pressure on European countries to do the same.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18026 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:08 pm to
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How ironic.



More like a non-sequitur, considering that Storm Shadow and SCALP have a much longer range than even ATACMS. Our European allies have been the ones unafraid of "escalation" and have been the ones who have provided Ukraine with long-range strike capability.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18026 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:09 pm to
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It's so retarded that we report this in the press.



Yes, but the flipside is that Russia has repeatedly proved itself too stupid to react and prepare for news like this.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2639 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:09 pm to
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Confirmation that Russian bases in Crimea will soon be feeling the heat, as long-range ATACMS will likely be in Ukraine by the weekend.


The substations that power the railway may also get a visit. There are plenty that will be within range, not only in Crimea. About 70% of the russian locomotives are electrical IIRC.

The locations of all Russian railroad substations near Ukraine have been published online
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19884 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:28 pm to
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You've been sleeping through the stories about Ukrainian pilots being trained in F-16s for the past year, eh?


Experienced pilots have a much faster learning curve. I doubt that they are taking new pilots just out of flight school for such an important role.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8118 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:05 pm to
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Really gonna need some kind of mine detecting and clearing robots. Maybe a small robot that could detect mines and put charges to be detonated remotely where mines are found.

Just buy a bunch of those $30 Radio Shack RC cars with the big 'ole mud tires and send them across the minefields.



I'm only half joking. 9 times out of 10, these "intractable" situations are solved with simple solutions. Let's just hope Ukraine comes up with a solution more elegant than Iran did in the 1980s...
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8118 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:09 pm to
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Right now, Ukraine does not have a good way to destroy Kerch. They really need Taurus for that, and Germany isn't giving it.

If history has taught us anything, it's that a country needn't necessarily "give" Ukraine anything.

I don't really care if Germany "gives" Ukraine the Taurus. All Germany needs to do is provide Ukraine with the means of building something similar, pretending they had nothing to do with it, and get out of the way.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:34 pm to
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Right now, Ukraine does not have a good way to destroy Kerch.


I'm about 90% sure they will hit the Kerch bridge in the next month or two. It took too long though, it doesn't even really matter anymore outside of a symbolic win (which is in desperate need).
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3762 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:42 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu highlighted ongoing Russian offensive operations near Chasiv Yar, Avdiivka, and Donetsk City and announced Russia’s intent to intensify its strike campaign to disrupt Ukrainian logistics.

Shoigu also discussed ongoing Russian military reforms during his April 23 MoD collegium address, cloaking ongoing expansion efforts in an information operation meant to falsely frame all Russian military activity as inherently defensive and responsive to supposed NATO aggression.

Iranian Supreme National Security Council Secretary Ali Akbar Ahmadian traveled to St. Petersburg on April 23 to attend the 12th Russian International Security Summit.

The Chechen Republic appears to be trying to align itself more closely with Iran over the backdrop of intensifying bilateral security cooperation between Russia and Iran.

United Kingdom (UK) Prime Minister Rishi Sunak announced the UK’s largest ever package of military assistance to Ukraine valued at 500 million pounds (around $662 million) on April 23.

Moldovan authorities confiscated over one million dollars from Kremlin-linked Moldovan opposition politicians at the Chisinau airport on the night of April 22 to 23, and the opposition politicians likely intended to use to bribe protestors and voters.

Russian federal censor Roskomnadzor is blocking 150 virtual private network (VPN) services in Russia, another step in the Kremlin’s efforts to further censor and control the Russian information space.

Ukrainian drone strikes and recent flooding in Russia have reportedly brought weekly Russian oil refining to an 11-month low, although the decrease in refining output has so far been marginal.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Chasiv Yar (west of Bakhmut) and Russian forces recently advanced near Donetsk City.

Prominent Russian milbloggers continue to complain about the ineffectiveness of Russian drones on the battlefield.


Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5812 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:42 pm to
They took the Ukrainian fighter pilots with the best grasp of the English language first. It wasn’t about seniority or skill although that sure would have been nice to have. Juice would have been the commander of the first F-16 squadron had he not been killed training other pilots. That first group is 6 or 7 pilots. The next group behind them is about 14 pilots and then you have the pilots in the 3rd group who have to basically take extensive English classes before they can even begin training on the F-16. The first batch of half a dozen pilots are ready now. The aircraft coming with them have to be first checked out and signed off that they are ready for flight ops.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
88 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:49 pm to
Senate just passed the Ukraine aid bill-along with the others.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10562 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:55 pm to
I'm sort of curious why they don't hire foreign pilots? There would be plenty of NATO pilots with thousands of F-16 hours who would strap themselves in for mercenary pay.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15466 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:04 pm to
This won’t give Ukraine the ability to take back what was stolen from them right now, but from a geopolitical perspective, tonight seems to show that the US is in this for the long haul, even when Trump gets back into office.

They better stop fricking around from here on out though, and get things straight, and come up with an actual plan to deter Russian aggression.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5812 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:35 pm to
Because it’s not nearly as easy as it sounds to form a mercenary air force. Ukraine has plenty of pilots they can train anyway. Some just take longer than others but that is ok because the aircraft are coming in small batches through the end of 2025 where they hope to have 60 F-16s in their fleet.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1729 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:49 pm to
So basically the inverse of what we saw 12-24 months ago....
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:50 pm to
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tonight seems to show that the US is in this for the long haul, even when Trump gets back into office.


What gives you that impression? It took forever to get this passed and that's with the vast majority of it going to replenishing the DOD stocks. Biden is going to have a real hard time telling Americans we're throwing another $50-100 billion at Ukraine right before the election if they're still losing ground.

I'm not sure what will happen if Trump wins, he doesn't like to lose, but there might not be any real practical options to help by then. I wish he would stop saying he could end this in a day, we're well past that point.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9744 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:05 pm to
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If you don't think there's a shite ton of aa in Tehran your not too smart. F 35's are not invisible. Totally detectable by radar. They just have to be close. If they flew over Tehran that would be their arse


Oh we already knew there was plenty of air defense. The problem is the Russian radar systems not all that the glossy color brochures say they are.

No one said that they were flying at tree top level, but many thousands of feet up, just like all the passenger airlines you never notice flying high in the sky,
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 10:11 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5812 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:12 pm to
Yeah you’re not a Russian cheerleader I swear……
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:16 pm to
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Yeah you’re not a Russian cheerleader I swear……


Can you dispute anything I said? You bleeding after every post of mine is flattering though
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:35 pm to
Hours after the aid bill gets approved Ukraine goes after a refinery in Russia

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