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At church today, I had another realization and a great idea for a commercial …

Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:33 pm
I am a Catholic, but this applies to probably just about every other Christian denomination as well.

Priests and preachers speak 99% of the time about great values: justice, love, peace, forgiveness, etc

These are inclusive of everyone. But the left likes to take our positions on abortion and sexuality and use that to portray us as spewers of hate.

I looked around the Church as “Taste and See” was sung by the cantor. People sitting reverently with their families. We are portrayed as haters. And it is remarkable

The left burns cities to the ground proudly and shrilly screaming “frick you haters!”

I just wish there were a grand commercial going back and forth between a serene church environment and a radical group rioting (in masks) shrieking about how “hateful” people like my family and I are for praying in church


Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:41 pm to
The frick
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:44 pm to
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But the left likes to take our positions on abortion and sexuality and use that to portray us as spewers of hate.


You will never convince me that I'm spewing hate by believing that unborn, yet already conceived, humans developing in the womb of the mother should not be killed.

You will never convince me that I'm spewing hate by repeating the Word of GOD, that homosexuality is an abomination.

I'm not personally condemning people who choose to engage in abortion or homosexuality. That's their choice of their own free will, and I have no influence. It's between them and the Creator. I simply understand that their actions are already condemned.

Leave me out of it. I'm not all up in their faces forcing the truth upon them. It's them, that are out every moment of every day shoving their lifestyle and choices in my face and demanding that I not only accept it but also embrace it. Sorry not sorry. Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by NineLineBind
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:47 pm to
No church would allow that to go on air because it would be seen as "tooting your own horn" (and hateful towards non-believers). You have to find a way to get people to show up to church in larger numbers and see for themselves.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:51 pm to
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I am a Catholic


Stopped reading here
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:17 pm to
Catholic here, and I agree with you. I often observe how well attendees from all walks of life get along in the Church. None of that racist hate speech we see daily from media and politicians.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:27 pm to
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At church today, I had another realization


well stop getting high before you go to church

Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:28 pm to
When I was 5 or 6, I realized magic wasn't real.


Imagine been a grown arse man and believing in that shite. lol
Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Imagine been a grown arse man and believing in that shite. lol


The fool hath said in his heart there is no God. You are gonna burn in hell if you don't ask Jesus to save you. If you don't, remember me in hell and that I told you to be saved.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:10 pm to
The readings today were pretty hard on sinners. Trust me I’m not talking down to anyone. I’m guilty of a lot of these. Thank God for the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

‘Brothers and sisters, live by the Spirit
and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh.
For the flesh has desires against the Spirit,
and the Spirit against the flesh;
these are opposed to each other,
so that you may not do what you want.
But if you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are obvious:
immorality, impurity, lust, idolatry,
sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy,
outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness,
dissensions, factions, occasions of envy,
drinking bouts, orgies, and the like.
I warn you, as I warned you before,
that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.


Gal 5:16-25
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2765 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:10 pm to
Now you are all over the video games board!
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 4:45 pm to
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I'm not personally condemning people who choose to engage in abortion or homosexuality. That's their choice of their own free will, and I have no influence. It's between them and the Creator. I simply understand that their actions are already condemned.


I don’t condemn them either. Their salvation and eternal destiny is up to the creator. In the case of abortion though, the individuals in our society have to ask ourselves questions as to what we will allow. Is it okay for a mother to kill her 1 year old, her 1 month old or 1 day old baby because she chooses she doesn’t want it? Those cases are murder. So it is when talking about a 7, 8 or 9 month old unborn baby. It isn’t about judging or condemnation. It is a matter of protecting the life of those who can’t defend themselves.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:40 pm to
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In the case of abortion though, the individuals in our society have to ask ourselves questions as to what we will allow. Is it okay for a mother to kill her 1 year old, her 1 month old or 1 day old baby because she chooses she doesn’t want it? Those cases are murder. So it is when talking about a 7, 8 or 9 month old unborn baby. It isn’t about judging or condemnation. It is a matter of protecting the life of those who can’t defend themselves.

This is one of the few very specific issues where I somewhat adopt a "slight shade of gray" stance, regardless of my spiritual, personal, ideological and sociopolitical beliefs.

Basically, what we have here in Oklahoma, is what I 100% believe to be a fair balance with separation of church and state. We do not allow abortions, and have even criminalized the act of performing abortions by anyone who would medically do so. However, there are exceptions for rape, incest, and medical reasons that imminently threaten the life of mother or unborn child.

My religion tells me that even these scenarios would be "part of His plan", but there are of course shades of gray to that, and th more moderate side of me says that if some 16 year old girl was abducted and sexually violated, well, she didn't ask for that child to be put in her. If some meth head daddy in Dixie's trailer park impregnates his half retarded already-inbred daughter and the chance of that baby coming out anywhere near functional is 0%, why force it? And if a fine working class couple plans for years to start a family, and then after finally accomplishing fertilization the doctors find that she has a rare condition that will certainly result in Mom's death if she carries to full term? There are situations where I feel it only fair to step back and show a willingness to assess individual situations.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4314 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 8:43 pm to
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When I was 5 or 6, I realized magic wasn't real.


So the universe created itself?

What did you say you realized wasn't real?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4314 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:27 pm to
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Did he plan for my sister in law to have two stillbirths and a set of twins that lived for only a week?


And now we know.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1875 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:35 pm to
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You will never convince me that I'm spewing hate by repeating the Word of GOD, that homosexuality is an abomination.

I like Old Testament commandments too.

I think about this one when I go to church and am looking at all the pretty statues and paintings:

quote:

3“You shall have no other gods before me. 4“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.


Let me break it down from a fundamental standpoint.
- don’t put the other gods on a higher level of importance than Yahweh
- don’t make statues, images, figures, or paintings or any kind of images of God, Yahweh, the other gods, angels, cherubim, seraphim, Leviathan, Behemoth, or any people or animals or especially trees.
- don’t bow down, or worship, or praise the other gods because Yahweh will be jealous and mess you up, and for your sin, he will curse your great grandkids

I can’t stand hypocrisy. Hopefully if you are sticking to his commandments you really truly follow all of them.
Posted by JackieSonnier
South Crowley
Member since Nov 2023
89 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:40 pm to
All the flavors of the lord and you choose to be salty on Pentecost Sunday. Need to listen to some positive and encouraging k-love my friend. Take the k-love challenge and let the lord work on that hardened heart of yours. There is no peace like the peace that Jesus brings into your life when you have a relationship with him.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142632 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:43 pm to
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the Church as “Taste and See” was sung by the cantor.
Wait - the Catholic Church has cantors? Like Al Jolson in The Jazz Singer?

Do you bus them in from local synagogues?

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4314 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:44 pm to
I thought the same thing.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4314 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:50 pm to
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I can’t stand hypocrisy


And yet you display intellectual hypocrisy every time you post your "gotcha" of God being responsible for the death of children.

I understand that what you are attempting to do is reveal Christian hypocrisy of thought, but when you post your definition of morality and it basically boils down to, "whatever the majority at the time thinks," then you ignore that the vast majority of the world was just fine at the time with tribes slaughtering conquered peoples, including women and children, or owning slaves, or whatever else you obviously think is evil regardless of what society thought of it at the time, you reveal your own hypocrisy.

I'm really glad you admitted that God exists and that you hate Him for your personal losses, though. That's a step forward in honesty.
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