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re: LSU is at No.34 in RPI, there are 33 at-large spots in NCAA Tourney...

Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:05 pm to
Thanks negative Nancy,
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3212 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:11 pm to
They have to get to 13 wins in SEC regular season play to have a chance. Period.

In 2011, LSU had an RPI of 23 and a SEC record of 13-17 and missed the cut.

An RPI of 33 and a 12-18 SEC record gets them squarely out of the regionals.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65134 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:20 pm to
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In 2011, LSU had an RPI of 23 and a SEC record of 13-17 and missed the cut.

it was and still is horseshite they didn't get a bid in 2011. Same thing in 2006 and honestly 2006 was an even bigger screw job, but at least 2006 snub got Smoke out of Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3212 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

it was and still is horseshite they didn't get a bid in 2011


Agree 100%.

Point is.. if that team with a much better RPI and a better regular season SEC record didn’t make it, this team at a 33 RPI and 12-18 record certainly isn’t making it.

Plus… never in history has a SEC team made the NCAA’s with a 12-18 SEC record.

Bottom line:Gotta sweep Ole Miss to have any chance at all to get in.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37164 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:50 pm to
Between this weekend and the SECT, I think 3 wins has us very much on the bubble and needing to be concern about bid thefts.

Between this weekend and the SECT, I think 4 wins has us safely in as a regional 3 seed.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68474 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Bottom line:Gotta sweep Ole Miss to have any chance at all to get in.



Or win SECT, thats the other option
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3691 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:09 pm to
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At this point, does it matter? This team has no business going to the post season, they made their beds, now they need to go lay in them.

The last team selected will be as good as half the tournament.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9574 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:50 pm to
I don’t know how NCAA softball works, but based on that, the SEC could get 12 teams in, although not likely. All 13 teams from the SEC got in a regional for softball (Vandy doesn’t field a team).
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3240 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:06 pm to
They're definitely not getting in with only twelve conference wins.
Posted by CWILKS3
Covington
Member since Apr 2020
838 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:10 pm to
It actually depends. They COULD get in with 12 conference wins if we take 2/3 from Ole Miss and Florida gets swept. That would put us at 10th place in the SEC. It would also DQ Florida from the NCAAT with a losing record. 10 SEC teams are getting in the tournament this year regardless of which way you cut it
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3240 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:10 pm to
Their body of work? Other than the A&M series, it's unimpressive.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3240 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:13 pm to
I understand. I just don't think Florida is going to get swept.
Posted by CWILKS3
Covington
Member since Apr 2020
838 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:15 pm to
I actually do think they’re going to get swept this weekend on the road at Georgia. Georgia is arguably the hottest team in the entire country, with the best hitter in the country. Regardless, I would just love for us to sweep Ole Miss, get us to a minimum of 11th place, potentially even jump Florida if they go 1/3 this weekend and get to 10th place. Then go get a Tuesday morning SEC W against likely South Carolina/Vandy depending on what happens this weekend with the standings
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3240 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:21 pm to
I applaud your optimism. I just don't think this team can sweep anybody with this pitching staff.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
4991 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:28 pm to
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Do you think LSU is not one of the top 64 teams in D1 baseball? If you think they are, then deserve to be in the tournament. If you don't think so then no one should trust anything you say about college baseball.


I do, but the sting of missing the regional may light a fire under their asses. They have been lollygagging all season and need to learn how to be winners and not just expect to win without putting in the effort.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13989 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:53 pm to
Friendly reminder that 2024 LSU is 1-8 in SEC Game 3’s
Posted by KeyserSoze007
Member since Nov 2023
18 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:23 am to
Just added this edit to the opening post...

13 conferences currently have at least 1 team with an RPI of 33 of higher.

SEC (11) - 1 Kentucky, 2 Texas A&M, 3 Georgia, 4 Arkansas, 6 Tennessee, 11 Alabama, 16 Miss State, 19 S. Carolina, 24 Ole Miss, 28 Vandy, 29 Florida
ACC (7) - 5 UNC, 7 Clemson, 8 Florida State, 9 Wake Forest, 13 Virginia, 20 NC State, 22 Duke
Big 12 (2) - 15 Oklahoma, 17 Oklahoma State
Big West (2) - 18 UC Santa Barbara, 23 UC Irvine
Pac 12 (2) - 14 Oregon State, 26 Arizona
Conference USA (2) - 21 DBU, 32 LaTech
Missouri Valley (1) - 10 Indiana State
American Athletic (1) - 12 East Carolina
West Coast (1) - 25 San Diego
Big East (1) - 27 Xavier
Big Ten (1) - 30 Nebraska
Coastal Athletic (1) - 31 Northwestern
Sunbelt (1) - 33 Southern Miss

There will be upsets, many upsets in conference tournaments. However, it would not be a stretch to say that anywhere from 5-7 of the 31 conference champions will have an RPI of 33 or higher.

If it is 5, then that would mean that teams with an RPI of 38 or higher have a better shot of being selected as an at-large team than teams with an RPI of 39 or lower.

If it is 7, then teams with an RPI of 40 or higher have a better chance than teams with an RPI of 41 or lower.

LSU is currently sitting at No.34, while Ole Miss is at No.24. Hypothetically, if LSU wins 2 out of 3, their RPI could climb up to around No.28 or 29.

This is the strongest year in history for the SEC. It is possible to see 12 teams getting in. I don't buy into the theory that a team from the SEC with an RPI around 28 would be excluded with a conference record of 12-18.

Based on history, at a minimum, you would need to have a record of 13-17, but this year is unprecedented. In 2024, 12-18 with an RPI of 28 may be enough to get in.

If just 5 conference champions have an RPI of 33 or higher than that means that teams with an RPI of 38 or higher have a shot to be selected as an at-large team.

If we can crack the Top 30 with a series win over Ole Miss, then the door is open. Win a couple in Hoover and our RPI could rise to around No.25. If this happens, it will be very hard for the Committee to keep last year's National Champs out.

Geaux Tigers!
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
4301 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:24 am to
Does Omaha get a vote? LSU would be the #1 bubble team if so!
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39729 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:31 am to
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If we can crack the Top 30 with a series win over Ole Miss, then the door is open. Win a couple in Hoover and our RPI could rise to around No.25. If this happens, it will be very hard for the Committee to keep last year's National Champs out.

LSU finished the 2011 season with an RPI of 28. They were two years from a National Championship, yet they were left out. And they were 13-17 in the SEC. We would have to sweep Ole Miss to get to 13.

IMO, they will be left out of the tournament even if they sweep Ole Miss, unless they also go deep in the SEC tournament. If the beat Ole Miss 2-1, then I think they have to win the SEC tournament to have an outside chance.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3788 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:35 am to
Means nothing. It’s who they pick.
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