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Tell me about Brazil

Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19545 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:06 am
Every four years, I take the fam to the Women's World Cup.

Found out this morning that the 2027 edition is in Brazil (during June/July).

No idea on schedules or whatever this far out, mostly just trying to understand the country better. What do I need to know?

These are the projected host cities:

Belo Horizonte
Brasília
Cuiabá
Fortaleza
Manaus
Porto Alegre
Recife
Rio de Janeiro
Salvador
São Paulo
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15922 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
It’s a large country. They speak Portuguese.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29695 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:48 pm to
I lived in Rio de Janeiro for four months back in 2016, what do you want to know?

Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19545 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:06 pm to
Uh - just basics for now.

Can I get by with English? What's the real deal with safety?

Any CAN'T MISS things in Rio or Sao Paulo? (I assume I'll be flying in or out of there.)

We've traveled abroad many times before, but never been to South America. Just trying to learn, for now.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29695 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:54 pm to
English is not very commonly spoken there, except for in the central business district

The women are everywhere and are as beautiful as advertised

One night stands are not nearly as popular as they are here, women travel in large groups and love girls night out, so be careful when trying to meet women

The food is amazing, eat local and you can save a ton, there are some super expensive restaurants in Leblon
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8657 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:02 pm to
I've only been to Rio, which was a couple months back. I know some Portuguese, so I was able to figure things out... barely. Highly-recommend learning a bit because you won't come across many people that know English.

Most of my time was exploring bars/restaurants, but did get a chance to see Christ the Redeemer and Sugarloaf. I'd encourage you to try seeing each first thing in the morning on a weekday, otherwise it'll be an absolute zoo. Views are absolutely breathtaking.

As for safety, and as odd it may sound, I felt safer at night than day. It's noticeably less crowded along Copacabana and Ipanema during the day when it's not a weekend. White people will be far easier to pick out. At night, everyone was out and it made everything less-intimidating. I'm of mixed descent, and have darker skin, so I admittedly didn't get bothered much.

I am still in absolute awe of sunrises over Copacabana and sunsets on Ipanema/Leblon.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8973 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:23 pm to
Spent some time in RDJ back in 19’.

The people are fun, vibrant and proud. RDJ is fricking gorgeous.

That being said; if traveling with a family I’d stick to Leblon, Ipanema and Copacabana. Safe, clean, touristy.

Petty theft, pickpockets and muggings are thing there. Exercise common sense and don’t make yourself a target. No flashy jewelry, bags, clothes, etc. My driver for the trip was quick to point out that the reason his car sat low and the suspension worn out was because the car had been bulletproofed.

Uber works and is cheap. Hit up the Christ and Sugarloaf. Try Feijoada. Sort of the iconic local dish. Eat a Pastel. Freshly pressed sugarcane juice is a remarkable hangover cure.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19545 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

One night stands are not nearly as popular as they are here, women travel in large groups and love girls night out, so be careful when trying to meet women


Noted - though I'd be traveling with my wife and daughter, so I'd find myself in trouble either way.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8657 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

RDJ is fricking gorgeous.


Truly, one of the prettiest natural cities I've been.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1394 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Can I get by with English? What's the real deal with safety?


I've never been so take with a grain of salt, but I've talked to a friend of mine from there about wanting to go and both the above topics. He learned english largely through gaming online growing up, but said not a lot of people speak English there because learning English was/is stigmatized and there's less exposure because they dub most English movies/shows.

Like someone else pointed out, at least in RDJ and SP, my friend emphasized as a non-native to not show you have anything expensive when out and about, watch, phone, laptop, etc. They live in Portugal now, but he said when they were there recently his wife had brought her new iPhone, but it was OK for her to have it out because since she is Brazilian any muggers/pickpockets would just think it was fake , but if you are visibly American you could be a targeted.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12388 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Belo Horizonte


I've been there twice for work. It's a much safer city that Sao Paulo or RDJ, but still be on your guard. It has a few thousand feet of altitude so it's cooler as well. Also has a reputation of the best food in Brazil. A lot of restaurants are buffet style and the price is the weight of your plate. Lots of meat options, filet mignon is surprisingly cheap. Very little English is spoken but I got by OK with Google Translate. Where I worked was the Savassi area (south of the central square) and supposedly the nicest area - the Novotel there is a good location and nice enough. If you are looking for an airport hotel it's hard to beat Linx Confins - it's great and a bargain but nothing around it. Driving is pretty stressful, though I rented a car and drove to spend a few days at the Caracca Monastery which is famous as the home of the Maned Wolf (saw it) and has some good hiking trails. Also nearby is Serra do Cipo, also very nice for hiking trails. The classic tourist spot is Ouro Preto, an old colonial mining town a few hours southeast of the city. Nothing really stands out as must see in Belo Horizonte.

June/July is their winter - Belo Horizonte will be cool, the others warmer. Be careful where you go in Sao Paulo and RDJ and watch your six. Sao Paulo is enormous, the city seemed to go by forever when we landed. Another place I never want to drive again.

Tentatively I'll be in the northeast of Brazil in July (vicinity of Recife), joining a friend who's planning a trip to look for rare bird species.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12388 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

learning English was/is stigmatized


I can believe this. I had at least two Brazilians tell me that they are one of the largest countries in the world and self sufficient, and they don't need anybody else. And they are proud of that. Very little English spoken, and not as much Spanish as you'd think. The two Spanish speakers in the company had problems there. Portuguese sounds very different, closer to Italian in accent than Spanish. I've been to around 50 countries and Brazil is the hardest one I've been to as an English speaker.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18016 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:19 pm to
If you get time to go to Iguazu Falls (Foz do Iguaçu), it's amazing. You also need to spend a full day on the Argentina side of the falls, though, to fully appreciate it.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19545 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:41 am to
quote:

June/July is their winter - Belo Horizonte will be cool, the others warmer. Be careful where you go in Sao Paulo and RDJ and watch your six. Sao Paulo is enormous, the city seemed to go by forever when we landed. Another place I never want to drive again.

Tentatively I'll be in the northeast of Brazil in July (vicinity of Recife), joining a friend who's planning a trip to look for rare bird species.


Would love to hear about Recife.

All of this feedback is great, and gives me a lot to think about. (Sounds like I need to get cranking on the Duolingo.)

Of course, it's a few years away so plenty of time to plan. I expect that we will let where the US is playing determine where we go.

For the last World Cup, we did:

Sydney
Auckland (US match)
Queenstown
Wellington (US match)

...over a two week stretch.

So, I could imagine us flying into Rio and out of Sao Paolo with two stops in between. 3-4 days in each place. Unless the US plays in RDJ or SP - then maybe we would select somewhere else to go. We won't know where the US will be until the December before the tournament.

I've been checking out YouTube videos - seems like it will be a decent time.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29695 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:11 pm to
Check out ilha grande just south of Rio

Took a week lend trip there (when I was living in Rio) and stayed at one of the Posadas on the island, it was amazing
Posted by duggie
Member since Nov 2008
122 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 11:52 pm to
I went to Rio in October for first time for work. I stayed in Leblon area and was absolutely blown away by the experience. Great restaurants, bars, shops, etc and was very safe. We had a driver and after our 2nd night, we told him we didn’t need him on future nights as we walked everywhere. Not to say crime won’t happen, but be smart as to not wear flashy jewelry or walk around with your brand new iPhone in hand.


On the weekend, we went to Christ the Redeemer in the early AM to beat the crowds. By the time we left, crowd was starting to get really large (and it was getting hot!), so highly recommend going as early as possible.

As far as visiting the beach, my coworkers warned us not to take wallets, phones nor hotel towels as the petty crime gangs will ransack the beach occasionally. With that said, we walked to/from Leblon to Copocabana having drinks along the way and I never once fell threatened.

In summary, Rio blew me away and I can’t wait to visit again.
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