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re: See, the animals are gay too

Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by s2
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:00 pm to
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Only people completely ate up with this ideology would try to salve their own consciences by attempting to prove that animals are ghey too.




only humans have the tendency to be insane, by choice.






Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:18 pm to
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You can't answer because you know where it goes.


He can’t answer because he is not very bright.

The clue that Displaced is out of his element and unable to defend his argument logically is when he starts replying with the term “sport.”


Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:19 pm to
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No, that's your point.

I'm not interested in that point.


You posted this

quote:


1. existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.


And proceeded to say that calling it unnatural is ignorant because of this definition if natural.

So a thing exists or is caused by nature, aka another natural thing, so it's natural. That's your point.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:22 pm to
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You posted this


Right, a definition. It shouldn't be controversial to expect people to communicate with accuracy.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:28 pm to
So if you imbue an act with any intent or meaning or direction, then you are doing what everyone else does.

If you are speaking of the simple literal act, then it the things involved are irrelevant. Therefore.... it's all natural. No matter what.

You are leaving the accuracy behind if you stop the definition of natural arbitrarily.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:29 pm to
I didn't stop it anywhere. I'm advocating that we all use the term correctly.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:34 pm to
No. You have an arbitrary stopping point.

Your logic is this:
2 male lions = natural, therefore
2 dudes = natural but

1 dude and 1 male lion = unnatural? Your only point is that an action can happen, therefore it's natural.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:35 pm to
My only point is that the terms natural and normal are used incorrectly.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:39 pm to
By refusing to equivocate two actions that are exactly the same, you are committing the same error.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:41 pm to
Your problem is that you're missing a ton of context, whether intentionally or unintentionally. Perhaps this is the first time you've ever participated in a discussion about the morality of homosexuality in humans. Somehow, I don't think that's the case, so I must conclude that it's intentional, and I think we both know why.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:44 pm to
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morality of homosexuality in humans.


Ahhhh. So you are saying it's natural because there is morality involved.

So you're like everyone else.

There is no space for morality in your definition of natural.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:46 pm to
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So you are saying it's natural because there is morality involved.


Nope.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:47 pm to
So a bunch of weirdos and their love for gay beastiality?
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:47 pm to
Then spit it out.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 8:48 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:48 pm to
He’s obv gay too.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:48 pm to
I already did.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:51 pm to
Yeah you posted a definition.

1. existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.

You can't have missing context in a definition.then it's an idea and not a defined thing.

So why does the morality of homosexuality matter when defining natural acts?


I would say there is a morality in natural acts, because there is natural law, so I don't disagree with you. But your point is that natural has nothing to do with morality or opinion or ideas and ONLY existence itself.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 8:52 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:55 pm to
Here you go:

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Your problem is that you're missing a ton of context, whether intentionally or unintentionally. Perhaps this is the first time you've ever participated in a discussion about the morality of homosexuality in humans. Somehow, I don't think that's the case, so I must conclude that it's intentional, and I think we both know why.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:04 pm to
Well theoretically I agree with the take in structure.

But what is the "morality if homosexuality" and why does it matter when talking about what is natural?

Because then your point is that there is an esoteric "morality of homosexuality" in the universe, defined by... something... that is embedded in the definition of nature, somehow, and determines that it's not always appropriate where you put your weiner. But sometimes it's ok.



In my view, there is a morality involved, an immorality, and it isn't natural because it doesn't follow natural law. I accept that the idea of natural does actually involve other concepts

You seemingly want to have your cake and eat it too.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:05 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Well theoretically I agree with the take in structure.


Glad to hear it.
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