re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread

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Mobley is getting extended. He isn’t on the table.

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You don’t trade away a young talented player with value just to make money work, along with giving them a 1st or two for that privilege. If they don’t send other assets back you simply don’t do the deal.

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You still need to make the money work.

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Ingram and Nance works for Garland and Mobley, just saying. Though to get Mobley you either add a first or Herb instead of Nance

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I think that one is a no brainer. Send out the first.

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You don’t have a say in that, Cleveland would have the say in it, it would come down to if they would prefer to have Herb, or the draft pick. You cannot tell the other team what they have to take.

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You cannot tell the other team what they have to take.

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Depends on who has the leverage in the negotiations and is willing to walk. And there are always risks.


The Lake Show lowballed Indiana for Paul George and missed out on him. OTOH, OKC later got him for what was seen as an underwhelming package built around Sabodis and Oladipo before Sabodis made it in Sacramento.

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The con, and it's a big one, is his attitude. Maybe he'll mature.

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Well, they say winning cures all .... but .... he would be going to the Pelicans, sooooo

Watching these 4 Western Conference teams currently playing, one thing is for certain...

If we get Garland or Murray, we're still miles away from being on the level of these teams.

We'd need to then use CJ, all the picks and 1 of or some combo of Herb/Dyson/Hawkins to get yet another guy to be a true contender.

It's part of the reason why I don't think Garland is actually a good fit. Way too pricy to add a $40mil dude who at best would need to be our #3 option on the best version of what this team can be. He's not a #2.

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If we get Garland or Murray, we're still miles away from being on the level of these teams.

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We should use the Mavs as an example. They bought low on a malcontent star who was a headache- who’s basically turned around his career in Dallas. Hmm who’s that sound like- oh wait theres this malcontent star in Atlanta who is a headache that can be bought low on named Trae Young.

At the end you trade for the star and the most gettable star for this pels team is likely Trae Young.

The only realistic way for the Pels to challenge for a chip is if Zion turns out to be our Ant Edwards, our Luka, our Jokic or SVA or Giannis. We got our turn at the plate. We got the number one overall pick in the draft in a year where a generational talent was available. That has to cash in for us to contend. Everything else is window dressing, which is important, but if Z doesn't reach that level, Pels don't contend...

since i enjoy playing with the trade machine:


Hawks get Jalen Suggs and 2 future 1st from Pels

Magic get CJ McCollum

Nets get BI and Herb Jones

Pels get Dejounte Murray, Mikal Bridges, S&T Claxton,
27 Nets firsts (Nets or Suns), Magic future 1st and some 2nds.
Send Larry and 2nds to Charlotte for Nick Richards for a slightly bigger backup big to Claxton.


Murray/Bridges/Trey/Zion/Claxton
Jose//Hawkins/Dyson/Naji/Ryan/Richards/draft pick

That puts us right at the cap line, not tax line but cap line, with 12 players, and that's me giving Naji $8M/yr and Jose $6M/yr. That easily allow us to pay Trey next year, and Mikal the year after that.


While I think we are giving up a good bit here, i think the fit is exactly what we want around Zion.
Murray and Bridges take 7 3's a game. Trey takes 8. They are all excellent C&S 3 point shooters, and they all can score when run off the line. Those 3 are going to take close to 25 3's a game playing off Zion. If we actually play Hawkins, getting 35-37 attempts a game should be easy, and if we found a big who could shoot getting to 40 would be realistic. Bring Karlo over and sign Dario Saric to a deal (both are from Croatia). I think bringing Karlo over helps sign Saric, and Saric helps Karlo's developement and adjusting to America.

and defensively, it sucks losing Herb, but Murray had more deflections than him and Dyson this past year. He's a disruptive defender. Mikal is a legit lock down defender. Trey impressed me with how he defended SGA. They are all good rebounders.
Claxton is a great rim protector and Zion's defense improved dramatically over the year.

I think that team still lacks a killer closer on the perimeter, but if Zion takes that next MVP level step, then it takes so much pressure off Murray/Bridges/Trey to have to create on their own late in games.

I think we really need to get Allen. Hawks and Cavs seem like our most realistic options to compete/ upgrade.

1A. Donovan Mitchell
1B. Trae Young

2A. Murray/ Garland

1A. Allen
1B.
2A. Okongwu